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Artist Interview: Shari Slonski

by Lori Greenberg on March 19, 2010

in Artist Interview,Contests

This interview is a long time coming!  I contacted Shari in 2009 about an interview and I have to apologize publicly for taking so long!  I think you will find it well worth the wait. Thanks for your patience, Shari!  (make sure you make it to the end because Shari has offered up one of her eTutorials for our contest here!)  Let’s get started…

How long have you been making beads and how  did you get started?

I took  my first beadmaking class in 2003 but really didn’t get fully into making only  lampwork beads until 2004, so 6yrs or so.

What does your day look like?

I have to laugh LOL! It’s embarassing to share my day. I get up early  (7am) make sure my daughter is up for school. I do a bit of housework, then head over to my studio to check for emails and orders. I answer emails,  quickly check online for messages, go through the forum/facebook to see what’s  happening. I try to not spend too much time online.

I then empty my kiln, remove my beads from their mandrels and clean my  beads while I watch the morning news and have some breakfast. If I get up  early enough I’ll try and fit my workout in.

I then usually do a photo shoot of my beads, upload them to the computer, edit, get layouts ready for Etsy & eBay. Meanwhile I’ve turned on my kiln which, by the time I have all my layouts done, my kiln is ready.

I then sit down and make beads. My time at the torch is always  inturrupted by having to take the dog for a walk or his pee break, a lunch break for me, or going and emptying the laundry or unloading the  dishwasher.

Basically there is always something to do. I also inturrupt my time at  the torch to get any orders ready to ship and I make a run down to the post  office, drive my daughter to work, come back and list my beads, then back to  making beads.

It always seems that I barely get a nice batch of beads made and it’s time to go in and make dinner. I clean up after dinner, spend a bit of time with my husband (who falls asleep within 15 minutes of watching tv as he works at 3am) once he’s asleep I head back out to my studio and take whatever energy I have left over to make more beads, fill orders and answer any other emails  or messages.

You started the Beads for a Cure site.  Tell us  a little bit about your experience with that.

Whew! That’s a long story.

Well I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 1996 and went through chemo and radiation treatments, shortly after I went through multiple surgeries to save my life. Propholactic surgeries and breast reconstruction. A few years after recovering and recouperating I decided to get involved in fundraising for breast cancer.

I had never been interested in jewelry before, nor did I have a clue how to make it. But the local jewelry store gave me a few tips on how to get started. I bought your basic imported beads of glass to make my bracelets. I sold my bracelets at a local breast cancer event and they  sold like hot cakes. All of the money going back to breast cancer except for my cost of the beads. I had so many requests for more that I decided to start a website and sell them online.

It took a lot of time educating myself about online sales, running a website, uploading photos, making changes, optimization of my website etc. It also took a lot of money to have a website created, and buy all the tools to get started with stock, making jewelry. I played it safe and only invested money that I made back into my business. As far as my website, it helped that I had a nephew that creates websites, and had two computer nerd sons, to help me with any questions or problems I would run  into.

Shortly after starting my website, I was invited to take part in a bead making class. At that point I didn’t even know that you could make your own beads, nor had I even thought about how they were made. I just assumed they were manufactured, but not made by hand. I really enjoyed the class and quickly purchased the basic tools to make beads. I have never had any other “hobby” so I didn’t mind the investment and I kept my investment minimal in case I decided I didn’t like it after a few months.

But as we all know, once you start you can’t  stop. As my skills improved and my sales improved, I invested my sales into buying more tools and upgrading from a hot head to a minor torch and from a crock pot to a kiln as I wanted to make sure my customers were getting bracelets made with quality beads. Gradually I stopped buying beads and all my  jewelry was made out of my own handmade beads.

Eventually I heard about eBay and decided to give  it a try. So I started selling my beads on eBay, I think it was in early  2007. My sales started out as 60% website (Beads For A Cure) and 40% eBay and over time that switched around. Especially with the economy taking a dive last  year, my website sales really took a drop. Not only because of the economy but  also because I was so busy making beads for eBay and Etsy that I was  neglecting my website.

Eventually at the end of 2009 I decided to shut the website down and leave that part of my journey, my cancer journey, behind  me. It was a hard and emotional decision but it was one I had to make in order to grow creatively.

I have a review of your Arrowhead Tutorial on my other  blog.  Any words about what it takes to write a pdf tutorial and sell it  online?

It takes a lot of work to put together a tutorial. First you have to plan out in your head the steps and make sure that you get photos of each step that you want the reader to see. They have to be important steps. When my  daughter takes the photos, I will talk as if I am giving a class and then I’m not missing any steps. I will instruct her when to take a shot. She usually takes 100′s of shots. Once the photo shoot is done, I have to go through those  hundreds of photos and pick the important ones, the good ones and crop and edit them so they are pleasing to look at. Then I have to sit down and do a layout. As I do the layout I write instructions next to each photo.

When writing a tutorial I always try to keep in mind that some artists reading the tutorial do not speak english or have little english. So I try to keep the instructions simple so that if the reader wants to translate the tutorial they can, without any confusion. For example if you use slang words that are easily distinguishable to us, they may not be to someone who doesn’t speak english and they may not be easily translated. So it is important to use proper english.  A lot of editing is done after the initial layout is finished. I usually try to get a few people to read over the  tutorial for me to look for errors, to make sure the steps are easily understood and to make sure I’m using proper english.

It’s never perfect, but I try to do a better job with each tutorial. That includes my writing and my photos.

I searched around and  didn’t find a web site for you other than group web sites, ebay or etsy.   Other than the Beads for a Cure site, have you ever had a web site  solely for your glass bead business?  How has that worked for you?   (note:  forgive me if I just couldn’t’ find it!)

No I have never had a seperate site for my beads.  I do have a neglected blog which I hope to find time to pay attention to and may start a bead website once the economy and sales pick up. I find that there really isn’t a need for one at this point as I don’t sell at shows or venues anywhere except eBay and Etsy.

How do you  market your work and what have you learned over the years?

Oh my gosh. This year I haven’t really done a lot of marketing. I use to  promote my work on LE [Lampwork Etc.] in the self promotion section but I don’t even do that anymore. I haven’t had the time. So the only marketing I do really is, showing  my work in the gallery on LE, and posting photos of my beads on my facebook page. Other than that, I guess they sell themselves.

What have I learned over the years?   There is a fine  line as to promoting your work and shoving it in someone’s face. For example, spamming people with emails about your work (unless they’ve subscribed to a letter), constantly asking people to join your fan club on facebook etc. Do it  in ways that you are promoting without the customer knowing that you are  promoting.

There are many tips to marketing that I could  write a book about, but I’ll try and share a few. If you do sell locally it’s easy to get free advertising by talking to a local columnist in your local paper and asking them if they are interested in writing a story about your business in the local paper. It’s free and you get a lot of readers. Word of  mouth is great. Wearing your work is great for promoting yourself. Putting up flyers in changerooms at the fitness centres. Having a family member or friend  have a home party for you (like tupperware) selling at local farmers markets.  Passing out your business cards with your website address on it. There are so  many ways of promoting yourself, your work or your website. Think outside the box, maybe even invest in having your logo and website address on your car.  You wouldn’t believe how many see it. I spoke with someone who had spent many  years in marketing and he said that your return is only as good as your investment.

So basically the effort or the time and money that you put into promoting or marketing yourself will come back to you in  sales. Spend nothing, get nothing.

I think I remember  you posting in the Lampwork Etc. form, daily posts about wellness.  It  sounds/sounded like you have a passion for that as well.  Would you like  to say anything about that?

Having gone through cancer I do have a strong belief in living a healthy lifestyle. I use to post about wellness a lot on LE but thought that maybe I was getting to be too annoying to others. I don’t believe in shoving things down anyones throats. Whether it’s health or my beads. LOL! Plus I just  didn’t have the time to keep it up. I constantly struggle with health issues that keep me from being consistent with my working out, but I keep trying and dont’ give up. As far as my eating habits go, we try and live a healthy  lifestyle. We rarely eat out and when we do it is usally a healthy meal.  We rarely buy any processed groceries, and rarely eat fast food. We don’t smoke, drink very little alchohol and make a point of keeping stress and negativity out of our lives.

It is my feeling that stress does a lot of damage to our bodies and is what brought on my cancer, even though my breast cancer was genetic. So I only work when I feel like working. I never pressure myself to make money, nor does my husband pressure me. We don’t depend on my bead income to get by, so in that regard I am lucky. If I want to take a month off , I do. So it makes it easy for me, if I have lost my muse, I just take time off. So no stress. For me, making beads has really never been about making money. It started out as wanting to help out a little with the family income if I can and it has stayed that way. If I help out I help out, if I don’t I don’t. I try to keep my life simple, positive and stress free. I found after what I went through in the past with cancer, that life just is not worth it if you’re constantly stressed about your work and dealing with negative people.

What advice would you give to beadmakers who are  just starting out and selling their work?

My advice would be to not spend more then you need to or can afford to on glass or tools. Then practice, practice, practice. When I first started making beads I sold them, even though they were nowhere near the quality that they are now. I was criticized for it and at times now am embarassed at how bad they are, if I run into someone still wearing a bracelet I made for them.  But it’s all part of the learning curve and in order to upgrade I had to sell my beads, because I was not about to dip into the family budget to feed my bead business. So I never listened to what anyone said and sold my beads even if the dots had undercuts, the edges weren’t clean or they were  ugly.

My best advice is to grow slowly if you’re going to make a business out of it. If it’s a hobby then don’t spend more then you need to if you’re just making bracelets for family or friends. But if you are  going to make the step to sell online then you should invest in a kiln. If you  can’t afford it then you shouldn’t be starting a business or selling online.  As far as your skills go, practice, read books or forums, watch videos on you tube, buy tutorials, have play dates with other artist and share your  knowledge, and don’t be afraid to ask questions. The worst thing that could happen is they don’t answer you.

Is there anything else that you tell us so that we know you better?

I am a pretty care free person. I don’t like confrontation or negativity, I’ll walk away from it and avoid it at all costs.  I’m quiet and unassuming. I’m quite happy with my business where it is now. I  don’t have a desire to be big or make huge sales or go to big shows. I like to work at my own pace and in my own time. Even though I don’t have a lot of confidence in myself, my husband says that I’m very friendly and outgoing when I am around people. However I’m not good in big crowds. I consider myself  pretty giving and caring of others. I try to accept people for who they are.  I’m just as excited when another artist does well with their work as I would  be for myself. I love seeing others succeed and I like to help others starting out as much as I can.  I’ve been married to my childhood sweetheart for  30yrs, and have three children. Two boys who are now adults and a teenage daughter. I enjoy photography. I don’t have any other activities. I spend most  of my days and time in my studio. Not sure how intersting any of that is.  LOL

So that’s me in a nutshell. A big nutshell at  that.

Thank you  Shari!  What a great glimpse into you and your business!  If you are interested in seeing more of Shari’s current work or purchasing one of her eTutorials, visit her etsy store or items on ebay.

And, if you’d like to win one of Shari’s eTutorials, read the review at the Lori Greenberg blog and enter to win.

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1.How long have you been making glass beads?

I started making beads in July, 2002 – so that would be 7 years now.

2.Did you start selling right away?

Not right away, but it wasn’t as long as I probably should have waited. After taking my first class, I started by apprenticing with Paulette Insall (who has moved on to painting), and after a couple of months I set up my own studio. I started selling early on in 2003.

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3.Is there anything you can share about when you started to sell your beads?

Like many other newbie beadmakers, I took up selling really too early. It was partly due to necessity – we often have to sell in order to make the money needed to keep buying glass and such. But I admit to getting caught up in the idea that I was good enough to sell my work – a lot of people were asking me to. If I had to do it over I would wait a year or so before selling my beads – giving me time to perfect the basic techniques and find my artistic voice.

4. I have often linked to your article about selling on eBay. Thank you! Do you still sell on eBay?

Thanks for linking the article – I am glad you enjoy it!
I do sell on ebay still – but it’s not on a regular basis. I sell larger sets there when I want to kind of let everyone know I am still alive. Ebay is a great venue for getting your name out there, but it is not the ebay we once knew. The market has really changed over the years, and ebay is no longer the main place for beadmakers to sell. There are so many venues out there that are more geared toward the self-representing artists. Ebay gets the most traffic, though, so I keep a presence there.

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5. What are your selling venues of choice? How has that changed over the years?

These days I prefer to sell beads on my website Lampwork.net, with the occasional ebay auction for larger sets. I sell tutorials on my other website, Coloraddiction.com, and also on Etsy.

Over the years, I have tried many different venues. Third party venues like Etsy, Artfire, Justbeads, Ebay and such are good for people who haven’t done a lot of online selling or are just starting out, because they help get one’s name out there and are not as much work as having one’s own website. Once I became a little more well-known, my website sales went up and I was able to concentrate on that as opposed to being on several other venues. I find that if I spread myself too thin I can’t keep up with more than just a couple of places.

I really like selling on my website because it eliminates the venue fees and I have more control. I’m kind of a control freak that way. LOL I do all of my own website creation and maintenance, and all of my own online marketing. It’s a lot of hard work, but really worth it.

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6. Do you sell anywhere else?

Other than online sales, I have done a few shows here and there. I’d really love to do more shows though – we’ll have to see! I will probably wind up doing local shows to supplement my online sales. I did do the ISGB Gathering in 2008 and that was a blast – I highly recommend it.

7. Your colors are beautiful! How do you come up with such great combinations? Do you experiment a lot or is it natural for you now?

Thank you! Color is my main motivation and inspiration. The way glass transmits light is what drives me as a beadmaker. I have always loved color – it’s a blissful experience for me. It’s color rather than shape or design that gets me excited when making a set of beads.

Color combinations come to me in a variety of ways. Usually though it just comes when I happen to see color scheme in a magazine, in a store, in nature, on TV, in someone’s clothing – anywhere really. I am always thinking to myself, “okay, which glass color would that be and how can I get that combination?”. I even look at the colors of cars going down the street and automatically try to come up with the glass color that matches.

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I also tend to spend a lot of time in the studio placing glass rods next to eachother to see what kind of emotional response they give me. I get a lot of ideas that way – spreading five or six rods out and trying to imagine them as a set.

By far the best place for color inspiration for me is a fabric, craft or yarn store. I could spend hours putting colors together in the local yarn store. I fall in love with color combinations every single day of my existence.

8. What advice would you give to someone new, wanting to create an online business?

I tell people all the time that making your art into an online business is very, difficult. It can be really rewarding, but it’s much more of a challenge than I ever thought it would be. You have to seperate your artistic self-worth and the monetary value of your art, otherwise it can be tough on your soul as an artist.

I also tell people that in order to succeed in a business, you have to love what you do. You have to give yourself time to fall in love with it and time for that love to come through in your art. That means giving yourself time to really learn the basic techniques so that your artisic voice is free to come out. Once that happens, your beads will sing with your voice, and more people will see value in that and will buy your work.

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If you don’t love what you do, and you’re just in it for the monetary gain, you are less likely to succeed – because your beads will just have no soul. People really want beads that speak to them.

Once you reach that place where you are happy with your work, be prepared to really put a lot of effort into selling. Especially in these economic times – people are less likely to spend a lot on what might be thought of as an “extra”. You will need to go that extra mile in order to stand out in the competition. But don’t give up if it’s what you really love!

9. I know that you have experienced having your beads knocked off and designs sent over seas, as well as having your images stolen and used without permission. How have you dealt with that and what advice can you give to someone who might experience this in the future, or how to prevent it, if possible?

I still struggle with dealing with this. The toughest part is the emotional side – because when you love your art as much as I do, it’s part of your soul. And when people steal it to profit from it, it hurts. However, if you can somehow come to terms with the fact that in this industry it cannot be avoided, you’ll be okay. I’ve had to learn to just let some things go.

The best defense with this kind of thing is just to educate people about it. There will always be unethical companies and people out there, and the more we talk about it the better. Unfortunately these days there’s not a lot that can be done to prevent image theft or design theft. I have tried many many things – even contacting authorities and watermarking my images. There eventually comes a point where the benefits do not outweigh the effort made to try and stop these things, so you have to decide what to do when that happens.

I can’t tell others to not let it get them down, because I myself get down about it all the time. But what I can say is that no matter what, no one can take away your artistic voice.

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10. I will be doing a review and holding a contest for your Simple Raised Flower Bead eTutorial on my Lori Greenberg blog…can you tell us a little about the process of writing a tutorial?

Tutorials are fun! Personally, I do my writing last. The first thing I do (well, after deciding which design I am going to turn into a tutorial) is make the bead I am writing about a few times while taking notes about each and every step. I then have my husband photograph each step while I am making the bead. He’s really good at it! I then edit the photos – and this takes the most time out of the whole process.

Lastly I write the tutorial from my notes and do the layout of the tutorial in my publishing program. The whole thing takes a couple of weeks because I tend to work on it intermittently while keeping up with other beadmaking and website sales.

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11. Thank you Kandice!  Is there anything else you’d like to leave our readers with?

Mainly what I would like to say to people just starting out is this – There is now a lot of competition out there. Beadmaking is becoming more mainstream, so we all have to work even harder to stand out in the crowd. But if you put a lot of love in your work, have a little talent, and are willing to pound the pavement and learn about marketing and business, you can be successful.

Learn how to market online – there are a lot of free resources out there just by Googling. Learn to balance what you love with what potential customers are looking for.

Above all – be patient! Sales will come, but it does take some time.

You can find Kandice’s web site at www.lampwork.net, her tutorial site with fellow glass bead artist Kimberly Affleck at www.coloraddiction.com and her blog at www.coloraddictionblog.blogspot.com where she writes about glass colors, testing and color in general.  Make sure to see what she’s up to!

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Artist Interview: Vickie Lee

by Lori Greenberg on May 27, 2009

in Artist Interview

I was recently at a show where Vickie Lee was also exhibiting. During some down time we had a chance to chat business and I got to learn from a real pro. I’ve focused my interview questions on some of the things that we talked about and I want to thank Vickie for her giving heart and her passion for telling it like it is in order to help others excel in their own bead/art businesses!

How long have you been in the glass business? How long in the bead business?
I began lampworking 36 years ago, in January 1972, after seeing the demonstrations at the Disneyland crystal arcade.

Originally a hobby, I found myself selling my work within a year, after a rep found me and put me in the wholesale gift shows. The orders were overwhelming and I found myself leaving wholesale after a few years to try retail where I was able to work during the year preparing for my seasonal sales events. My first Christmas booth in 1979 sold $20,000 in product during the holidays. The following 2 years I doubled my locations and had found my niche!

My personal life abruptly changed and I returned to wholesale. It took a while, but I soon found a great niche in that venue as well. I eventually moved my wholesale business to the MGM Hotel in Las Vegas, working under contract as their resident lampworker. After 3 years in Las Vegas I opened my own Galleria back home in California, but quickly returned to wholesale sculptures, until I found beads.

Out of curiosity, I wandered into the BABE show in the Bay Area and the first beads I saw were Leah Fairbanks. I was in total awe and at that moment decided to give this new art form a try. In January 2003 I bought my first sample pack of soft glass and mandrels and began to teach myself about this art. I owe all of the wonderful bead people online for their openness and generosity in helping me to achieve this coveted goal.

What advice would you give to beadmakers getting into the business of selling beads, regarding pricing their work?
Usually when someone asks about pricing, I ask them if they could sell their beads for half of what they are currently priced.

My first bead sales were wholesale, so right away I had to price them where I was making money at a wholesale level. When I crossed over to retail, I doubled them to match the stores that carried them. It was scary at first, charging “that much” as a new beadmaker, but then I realized that if people were buying them at the stores, they were priced accordingly. And, I wanted to keep my prices the same as the stores, so that I never undercut my wholesale accounts. That’s a big, no no in any business.

Another thing that can throw off a pricing decision is the time it takes to make a bead. We all know the “per hour rule of thumb” but sometimes miss the fact that the years of experience and your design should contribute to your pricing decision. Sometimes an experienced or fast lampworker tries to follow the per hour rule because “it didn’t take that long to make”. I always say it took me 36 years “to make” because that’s what it took for me to get to this point. So pricing adjustments should always come into play based on your unique design and how long it took you to develop your style, let alone that particular design, and experience will teach us if we are on the right track.

What are your thoughts on wholesaling vs. selling retail?
When I began both my lampworking career in sculptured glass, and my bead career, my first sales were wholesale. I then ventured into retail with my sculptures and now at retail bead shows with my beads and jewelry. Both avenues have their advantages and disadvantages, so it becomes a matter of what type of working environment suits how you like to work.

What I love about wholesale is that you spend most of your time doing what you love, melting glass and working in the studio. Before I got into beads, I had a wholesale glass clown and Christmas ornament line that I sold nationwide through reps. This was before computers and so I would fill my reps orders from my order sheets by my workbench. It wasn’t exciting, but it was easy, consistent and I made good money that I could count on. I was usually booked 6-8 weeks in advance and carried a Net 30 on most of my accounts, so I always had a good steady income. That was important for me at a time when I needed to be home to raise a child and support us both.

The disadvantage of wholesale is that your creativity suffers a bit, unless you set aside extra time for that as well. You have to be consistent with your wholesale items, and be able to duplicate them exactly as shown every time, even when being handmade. But….when you receive a $3,000 order that you know will be paid within 30 days of receipt, it doesn’t seem as boring as you might imagine.

The advantage of retail shows is that you get a lot of in person feedback about your work and you get to meet some very nice people in the process. You get to make many different types of beads and jewelry and can experiment with your designs. It’s a bit more risky since you have a lot of upfront expenses with no guarantee that you will make the amount of money you may need.


How do you promote your work?
Right now, I get most of my work from my shows, a few select wholesale accounts, and the customers on my website that have already seen my work at the shows. I was selling with eBay for a while and it was good, but I’m not happy with the way things have been lately and I’m working on bringing customers to my website from the shows I attend. I’m also working on designing some wholesale lines that will take me in another direction as well as with the beads.

What advice would you give to someone just getting into selling their work?
Be consistent with your business policies and your work. Set specific terms for your work and as much as possible stick to those terms. Put them in writing so that your customers, both retail and wholesale know that you have a policy and then they will be less likely to ask for changes. I was at a show and was overheard telling a customer “no” who was asking for a “discount” because she didn’t qualify as either a retail storefront or a designer. I was VERY polite to her, but remained firm showing her my written terms, explaining that I had to be fair to the customers that do qualify and need that advantage to resell and make a profit on their end. A few minutes later a woman walked up to my table and said…”thank you!” When I looked at her rather confused, she said that she owned a bead store, and was pleased to hear that we as artisans, don’t undercut our wholesale accounts.

What is one thing you would have done differently if you knew now what you didn’t know then?
This was the toughest question for me. I really don’t have any regrets on what I’ve done with my glass career. But if I look back at the biggest mistakes I’ve made, it was when I went with a company that was starting “something new” and I decided to get in on the ground floor. I now realize that no matter how hard I was willing to work, a good part of my success was at the mercy of others and if they got their end of the business up and running.

When I did my seasonal boutiques in the malls in the early 80′s I had my first store, and would expand into the new malls that were being built. My sales were exactly half in the new malls, but with the same amount of effort. I was trying to get in on the ground floor but it wasn’t a wise choice. When I went to the MGM, they were just starting out with this new venture at the theme park. I was promised the moon with a contract to back it up, but the promises were never fulfilled because their end of the arrangement didn’t succeed.

When I opened my Galleria, it was in a brand new mall. I wasn’t able to support myself and carry the expenses of the business while waiting for the mall to live up to their end and attract enough customers to keep it going properly. I used to tell the mall management each month….”I can’t sell to ghosts”. My store was very nice, and I attracted an exclusive clientele from another established mall, but the volume of people wasn’t enough to sustain many of the merchants in the mall at that time.

You can find Vickie’s current work and show schedule at vickielee.com.

Thanks Vickie, for taking the time to share your experiences! I know that your pricing hints have helped me tremendously in my own bead business!

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